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Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: July 13th, 2025, 3:21 am
by RC_BobM
Hello Minipansar,
I picked up another project - because I'm very good at starting and never finishing. :crazy:

This is an all Steel M5 hull made by guy in California in 2009. He made exactly 5 of these hulls and never finished them. It has no motors or electronics or turret. I was able to pick this up cheap and hope to get it running soon. Its heavy - 80-85 lbs (176 -187 kg) with nothing inside! I made a scratch build M5A1 some time ago, so the CAD for that can be used for this one.

Craftsmanship is pretty nice overall.

Motors are 12V robot motors will all steel gears. I will remove output shaft on one side to make Left and Right.
Rear idler - works like real tank
Rear idler - works like real tank
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Track and bogey wheels
Track and bogey wheels
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Sprocket
Sprocket
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Hull with fresh paint
Hull with fresh paint
Hull with fresh paint2.jpg
Motor layout
Motor layout
NPC motor
NPC motor
Hull CAD model
Hull CAD model
Turret CAD model
Turret CAD model
Hopefully someday it will look like this.
July 4 2019 - M5A1.jpg

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: July 13th, 2025, 9:09 am
by Hans K
Nice Works

Hans K.

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: July 13th, 2025, 12:25 pm
by cahlfors
Holy cow, Bob! You are good at CAD! :clap:

Fantastic project!

Don't forget that this is a hobby! We start and finish projects as we like! :lol:
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Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: July 13th, 2025, 6:58 pm
by RC_BobM
Thanks guys, Chris doing this stuff for living (Engineering) helps with the hobbies! :wtf: I like to know what I'm making before I try and make it - hopefully prevents some do overs!

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: July 14th, 2025, 9:20 pm
by mrTyko
Another great work from you Bob the_man

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: August 10th, 2025, 9:38 pm
by Erik
Wow! And the Stuart is such a cool model! Congrats to a great find! 👍👍👍

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: August 16th, 2025, 8:50 pm
by RC_BobM
Thanks for nice comments guys. Yes Erik this hull is one of 5 ever made. I feel lucky to hopefully finish it.

Making some parts on CNC mill:

Got motors and chain sprocket installed

test fit the battery, will have 2X 12V battery for juice.

Hope to test drive soon.
-Bob
CAD continues
CAD continues
Machine motor mount plate
Machine motor mount plate
Motor mount / floor plate
Motor mount / floor plate
Motor installation with chain sprockets
Motor installation with chain sprockets
Test fit of batteries
Test fit of batteries

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: August 29th, 2025, 4:37 am
by RC_BobM
August 23rd little Stewey got its first RC drive. Everything went really well - until it didn't. :shock: All part of the fun.

Motors all connected up.
Motors ready
Motors ready
Nice side view
Side view
Side view
Nice three quarter
Three quarter vieww
Three quarter vieww
In the yard
In the back yard
In the back yard
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Track separation. The end connector came apart and the track jammed.
Track separation
Track separation
TRack separate 2
TRack separate 2
Tank cart to the rescue!
Rescue cart
Rescue cart
Got some good dirt on it at least.
Dirt on tracks
Dirt on tracks
Unfortunately I lost some of the end connector pieces and there are no spares. Time to make some! :cry: I found one of the Achilles Heals for this model!
In the back yard
In the back yard
Till next time,
Bob

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: August 29th, 2025, 5:48 am
by mrTyko
Great modell you have there, pretty good job on the mill. the_man
Everyone has had your problems, try something. And it goes wrong, redo and fix it so it gets better.
I think you say try, try and try again.

Have a nice day
Robert

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: August 29th, 2025, 7:15 pm
by cahlfors
"...came apart..." Does that mean that it broke, or just that the fastener unscrewed itself?

Hoping for the best! :thumbup:
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Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: August 30th, 2025, 4:55 pm
by RC_BobM
Hey Chris and Robert
Yes this thing is very tank like - quite fun to drive. Even squeek like real tank.

Nothing broke - just came apart. The little "C" shape piece on end connector fell out. Fortunately I found it by putting small magnets on tips of garden rake - good thing about steel.

The end connector are really poor design with many tiny parts. Each track weigh over 10lbs (~5 kg) so it needs to be strong. The end connector should be one piece like AT Sterman (tooth piece and C shape = one piece) like shown below.
One piece end connector.jpg
One piece end connector 2.jpg
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Also of poor design is the use of really thin plastic bushing instead of bearings. The model weigh nearly 100lbs as is, no turret, and using tiny plastic bushings in the wheels is absurd. At the very least they should be bronze bearing. So I replaced the idler wheel bushing with custom bronze bearing. Lots of things to fix!

Still fun tho!

Cheers Bob

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: September 21st, 2025, 7:52 pm
by RC_BobM
Phase II - Design of 24V motor mounting. The 12V motor I have installed run really great and have plenty of torque, but they get extremely hot. I think they are over worked for weight of model. :silent: So got some 350Watt 24V scooter motor from AMZN. Very inexpensive, but they are a little heavier than the 12V motor. They should run much cooler hopefully, they were 4X less expensive than the 12V motors. Right side chain length is a little long, but should work fine. Will be nice to run on 24V like all the Armortek models.

Some CAD images
350 W motors -L
350 W motors -L
Motors from R
Motors from R
top view
top view
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With top deck plate;
overall
overall
Almost ready to start machining parts....
All for now.
B

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: September 23rd, 2025, 7:55 pm
by mrTyko
Nice work you make there. <>+

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: October 10th, 2025, 4:47 am
by RC_BobM
Minor update. New 3D printed stainless steel end connectors to fix me Stuart. Very nice quality. Yahoo!
Printed End Connector
Printed End Connector

Re: Barn find - Estate sale - Steel M5 Stuart

Posted: October 10th, 2025, 4:52 pm
by mrTyko
Impressive Most Impressive... jawdr